Tuesday, August 15, 2006

sauntering and photoblogging: a suspicious art

Meg Nakagawa's recent discussion of copyright issues around photography and the use of photographs on blogs: http://notawomanoffewwords.blogspot.com/2006/08/copyrights-pros-and-cons.html
made me reflect on something that happened to me the other week. I tend to do a lot of photography in the alleyways in my neighborhood. As visitors to my blog will see, I photograph vehicles, incinerators, old tires and whatever else I find interesting. One night last week around 7pm I was approached by someone who asked me if I lived "on the block." When I replied that I didn't, he asked whether I was "looking to move" there. When I replied that I was just passing through he looked suspiciously at me and said, "we like to find out who new people are." I told him that I'd lived in the neighborhood for several years but this didn't seem to satisfy him much. Glancing up and down at me, he walked off.

That was pretty much it. While I understand that residents have good reason for keeping an eye on unfamiliar people in the alleyway, at the same time it seems to me that there's a general suspicion of people who saunter around (that's what I tend to do) whether taking photos or not. But in my case, there was a cynicism and sarcasm in the man's words that seemed disproportionate. I think that what bugged me was the feeling that one has to have some clear, "legitimate" purpose when walking through public space in order to be perceived as unthreatening. I'm not sure whether this man saw my camera but it got me thinking about both the issue of taking photographs in public spaces and also about walking through public space to do that. I wonder if folk are more suspicious about people taking photographs these days? None of this is directly related to Meg's discussion, which concerns copyright issues more than walking through public space, but her post made me reflect on these issues. Have other photobloggers had similar (or different) experiences?

10 Comments:

Blogger phlegmfatale said...

i think we are in a moment of particular paranoia. I have noticed a couple odd glances my way as I've been snapping pics around town for the Diorama lately. I was taking a photo of the Beer sign on a dive in Dallas which dates from 1958 today when a beer truck pulled up and the big lad unloading the hooch stared at me for a sec and I said "I'm photographing that great sign," but for one deliciously wicked moment, I thought of saying "I'm snapping pics of hot beer truck drivers around town, would you mind posing for me?" It's not often I leave something unsaid.

8/15/06, 7:09 PM  
Blogger Meg said...

Hi, Nomad. Thanks for stopping by. The other issue that really bugs me is taking people photograph. Nelson has a fantastic Saturday market but Ben and I haven't decided how to approach this, so we haven't taken our cameras there. But I'm very careful of not having kids in pictures; I'm the type who breaks easily at interrogations.

The morning after we joined Daily Photo, we printed out crude business cards with our names, (because we are the only Nakagawas in the Nelson phone book) and our NDP URL, and something like "...and see the rest of the world from our links". We carry the cards every day, and I have used it twice to ask shopkeepers if I can put a photo of their shop or an item in their shop. They were happy to, but I can see a time when somebody will think it's not a good idea.

It really makes one think, doesn't it?

By the way, I went to Hamline so it's terrific to see that neck of the woods. Discovering DP and the Minnesota blogs in particular have been like confort food for me. Look forward to heaps more.

8/15/06, 11:31 PM  
Blogger . said...

phlegmfatale: I think you're right about this being a moment of heightened paranoia. I guess that humor (as per your potential reply to the truck driver) is one way to deal with this. It would have been interesting to hear what he would have replied...

Meg: your card idea is great. I might have to adopt that one myself. And, hey--this would mean more visitors for the site, too, I imagine. So, you went to Hamline? You've moved a long way away, then. Inspired by phlegmfatale's photos of neon signs in Dallas on Dallas Diorama, I went out yesterday and took some photographs of the signs of the Midway Motel which, as perhaps you'll recall, is opposite Hamline on Snelling. I'll post them later today. More reminders of the Twin Cities for you!

8/16/06, 2:10 PM  
Blogger phlegmfatale said...

Meg inspired me too- I've gotten curious looks whilst out snapping away, so I think I'll come up with some sort of card to hand out.

8/17/06, 5:22 AM  
Blogger Meg said...

Re the cards - I'm not ashamed I do DP, but by the same token, I don't want to threaten people if that's how they feel, and I sure don't want to inadvertantly harm anyone, and hey, if we get a few more hits, or if these people enjoy a world wide tour through the links, that's GREAT. Kiwis are reputed to have the highest % or passport holders and they travel like it's going out of fashion and/or have relatives all over the world, so there, world peace through DP...

Nomad, my man, Washburn (MPLS) and HU, plus kindy but I have no recollection where. Would you believe I went to a Catholic Convent school in Tokyo in between? I found Slinger's Twin Cities and he has links to the Minnesota sites, so I've been making my daily rounds since I joined DP in August.

Yes, how can you forget the Midway motel. They haven't done much rennovation, have they? Color TV? WOW! And I love the way you do these series of close up, then pan a little, and then the whole picture, and you get the answer thing. It works so well scrolling down. Your brain works in a very flexble and fantastic way! I hope your computer never crashes, your camera never breaks, you never get sick or go on a holiday.... OK, you can go on a holiday, but in short spurts.

8/17/06, 3:11 PM  
Blogger . said...

Meg,
funny you should mention the close-up / pan thing that I've done a few times. I was sort of conscious of that and this makes me think that it's an effective technique for telling a story about a scene or object in a series of two or three photos.

The question of photographic ethics is a really interesting subject for bloggers, I think. I don't know much about the Daily Photo so I don't know much about how joining potentially impacts one's approach to taking photographs or the content of a site. I have noticed, though, that quite a few bloggers who are affiliated with DP only carry links to other Daily Photo sites. But I imagine that this is up to the person writing the blog rather than a stipulation of sorts? Also, I wonder: is there a stigma about joining DP? (I ask as you sort of gesture towards the possibility that there is at the beginning of your message above).
best,
nn.

8/17/06, 4:26 PM  
Blogger Meg said...

Nomad, it is, it is... Your story-telling. It's a superb technic, and with some stories, you can get away with no words. Very classy; something I would have never thought of in a million years. But if you think about it, it's the comic-strip logic, just vertical, isn't it? I think this is why your DP makes one look at the whole post (or to the conclusion of the story) rather than just a glance, AND sometimes I have to go back to the top.

Re. joining, not stigma - I just didn't want to have fun at someone else's expense. I've had a family blog since Easter for which I use a differnt account, and because it has pictures of young nephews and niece, none of us use real names or specific place names, and we at least TRY not to leave any traces of our real identities... This is primarily for kidnap prevention, but we all realise that the heads in the pics could be pasted on some porn site. Geepers, how depressing is THAT! Good thing I don't have kids.

We kind of jumped into DP after we found Beirut, and then traced it back to Eric's Paris the next day. And then we started to think about the different discusssions we've been hearing about the vices of Internet, most of which was happening in faraway Lalaland until 2 August. BUT, because it's a blog intended to introduce our place to the rest of the world, I don't want to keep shooting just moutains and seas and rivers and sheep, (Oh, haven't done sheep yet,) nor do I want to shoot too many of the things one can find elsewhere - flowers, bees, tomatos. On the other hand, us being in New Zealand, landscapes are popular from the number of comments we get, and Ben likes landscapes, so, we'll live. There's a mask parade coming up next month, so at least that ought to be safe.

8/17/06, 5:16 PM  
Blogger Meg said...

Just put a pic of my so called 'card' on my supplement... Not very inspiring, but I was avoiding work this morning.

8/17/06, 9:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A couple years ago, I was waiting at a bus stop in downtown Minneapolis when I happened to look up at the skyway. A security guard was standing there, glaring at me. I was confused, and looked around to see if anything was wrong. Nope. Then I realized I had my camera around my neck, and minutes before, I had been gazing at the tall buildings.

I think I will do the card idea like Meg has mentioned. While most people are generally curious in a positive way about me and my camera, I'm still paranoid.

8/21/06, 6:55 PM  
Blogger . said...

Hi Julie and all,
I came across this summary of photography rights the other day, which is informative. If you go to the site there's also a printable version that may be useful to carry when photographing:
http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm

I'm not sure how up to date the information is, though. And I must find out more about actually publishing images on the blog, too.

It looks like Meg's card idea is a winner.

8/22/06, 9:03 AM  

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